{"id":5161,"date":"2018-11-24T08:59:09","date_gmt":"2018-11-24T15:59:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/?p=5161"},"modified":"2018-12-08T15:47:28","modified_gmt":"2018-12-08T22:47:28","slug":"working-with-e8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/2018\/11\/24\/working-with-e8\/","title":{"rendered":"Working with E8+++"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I wanted to confirm some work being done with E11 (or more specifically the Extended E8+++), so I used my &#8220;VisibLie&#8221; notebook (which includes the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.equaonline.com\/math\/SuperLie\/\">&#8220;SuperLie&#8221; package<\/a> for analyzing Lie Algebras) to get the following information:<\/p>\n<p>I first created the Dynkin diagram which produces the Cartan Matrix:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outDynkin-Cartan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5168\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outDynkin-Cartan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"630\" height=\"232\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outDynkin-Cartan.png 630w, http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outDynkin-Cartan-500x184.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This allows the evaluation of the EigenSystem of the Cartan matrix as follows:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outEigenSystem.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5176\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outEigenSystem.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"654\" height=\"271\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outEigenSystem.png 654w, http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outEigenSystem-500x207.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 654px) 100vw, 654px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As well as using the SuperLie package to evaluate the Positive Roots, Weights and Heights of the E8+++ (The first 80 are shown. For the full list in .pdf click <a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/images\/outRoots-Weights.pdf\">here<\/a> or click on the image below):<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/images\/outRoots-Weights.pdf\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5167\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/images\/outRoots-Weights-80.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"962\" height=\"12237\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The 4870 positive roots up to height 47 generate a Hasse diagram as follows (with 3 sections zoomed in):<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/E11-hasse2c-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5212\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/E11-hasse2c-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"3728\" height=\"3993\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/E11-hasse2c-1.png 3728w, http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/E11-hasse2c-1-467x500.png 467w, http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/E11-hasse2c-1-956x1024.png 956w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3728px) 100vw, 3728px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I am working on replication of the Petrie projection by A.G. Lisi based on his prescription using his basis vectors for 2D projection and a Simple Roots Matrix:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outSimpleRoots-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5189\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outSimpleRoots-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"316\" height=\"197\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Adjusting this E11 Simple Roots Matrix (srmE11) to match the Dynkin diagram above and then verifying it creates the same Cartan matrix, we have:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outSimpleRoots-adjusted.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5192\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outSimpleRoots-adjusted.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"371\" height=\"448\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>To get the 9740 E8+++ vertices, we simply use the dot product of the transpose of srmE11 against the positive and negative root vectors (first 50 shown):<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outE11Vertices50_of_1436.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5195\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outE11Vertices50_of_1436.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"307\" height=\"950\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outE11Vertices50_of_1436.png 307w, http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/outE11Vertices50_of_1436-162x500.png 162w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 307px) 100vw, 307px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A first cut at plotting these involves projecting them to a 2D using the dot product of the 2 basis vectors provided, which gives the following ListPlot:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/rootPlot.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5214\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/rootPlot.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"847\" height=\"1592\" srcset=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/rootPlot.png 847w, http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/rootPlot-266x500.png 266w, http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/rootPlot-545x1024.png 545w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 847px) 100vw, 847px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The limited results from SuperLie are consistent with the image given by Lisi on the <a href=\"https:\/\/backreaction.blogspot.com\/2018\/11\/guest-post-garrett-lisi-on-geometric.html\">Bee&#8217;s BackReaction blog<\/a>, after eliminating the vertical &#8220;levels&#8221; in my raw plot.<\/p>\n<p>Email me if you want more detail, see errors, or would like to help.<\/p>\n<p>Greg<br \/>\nJGMoxness@theoryofeverything.org<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wanted to confirm some work being done with E11 (or more specifically the Extended E8+++), so I used my &#8220;VisibLie&#8221; notebook (which includes the &#8220;SuperLie&#8221; package for analyzing Lie Algebras) to get the following information: I first created the Dynkin diagram which produces the Cartan Matrix: This allows the evaluation of the EigenSystem of &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/2018\/11\/24\/working-with-e8\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Working with E8+++<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[11,4],"class_list":["post-5161","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-physics","tag-2d","tag-e8"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - 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