{"id":4409,"date":"2017-09-14T12:39:33","date_gmt":"2017-09-14T19:39:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/?p=4409"},"modified":"2017-10-14T08:33:40","modified_gmt":"2017-10-14T15:33:40","slug":"comparing-nearest-edges-between-split-real-even-sre-e8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/2017\/09\/14\/comparing-nearest-edges-between-split-real-even-sre-e8\/","title":{"rendered":"Comparing nearest edges between Split Real Even (SRE) E8"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have been intrigued with Richter&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/0704.3091\">arXiv 0704.3091<\/a> &#8220;Triacontagonal Coordinates for the E8 root system&#8221; paper.<\/p>\n<p>Comparing nearest edges between Split Real Even (SRE) E8 and Richter&#8217;s Complex 4D Golden Ratio Petrie Projection Model:<\/p>\n<p>Please note, the vertex numbers are reordered from Richter&#8217;s paper in order to be consistent with <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1502.04350\">ArXiv quant-ph 1502.04350<\/a> &#8220;Parity Proofs of Kochen-Specker theorem based on the Lie Algebra E8&#8221; by Aravind and Waegell. This paper uses the beautiful symmetries of E8 as a basis for proof sets related to the Bell inequalities of quantum mechanics. Below is a graphic showing that vertex number ordering:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/KS-paper-verts.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/KS-paper-verts.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"359\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4429\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/KS-paper-verts.png 360w, https:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/KS-paper-verts-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Richter&#8217;s model with 74 nearest edges per vertex (Complex 4D Norm&#8217;d length Sqrt[2], with 8880 total):<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4399\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/images\/RichterEdges-Sqrt2_1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Richter&#8217;s model with only 26 nearest edges per vertex (Complex 4D Norm&#8217;d length 1, 3120 total):<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4399\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/images\/E8Edges-Unity_1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The above unity length edge pattern has is more consistent with the SRE E8 below. <\/p>\n<p>The SRE E8 Petrie Projection (with 56 Norm&#8217;d edge length Sqrt[2] for each vertex, 6720 total). This is equivalent to folding E8 to H4 with an 8&#215;8 rotation matrix which creates a 4D-left H4+H4*Phi and a 4D-right H4+H4*Phi. <\/p>\n<p>Please note, the vertex number is that of the E8 vertices rotated (or &#8220;folded&#8221;) to H4 in 2D Petrie projection. The vertex numbers are in canonical binary order from E8&#8217;s 1:1 correspondence with the 9th row of the Pascal Triangle (eliminating the 16 generator\/anti-generator vertices of E8 found in the 2nd and 8th column of the Pascal Triangle). The graphic below shows the vertex number ordering:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/E82H4-verts.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/E82H4-verts.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"359\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4428\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/E82H4-verts.png 360w, https:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/theToE\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/E82H4-verts-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here we take the 4D-left half and project to two concentric rings of H4 and H4 Phi (Golden Ratio) with 56 nearest edges per vertex (Norm&#8217;d length of unity or Phi for each vertex):<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4399\" src=\"http:\/\/theoryofeverything.org\/images\/E82H4Edges-Unity-Phi_1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The animation frames are sorted by the ArcTan[y\/x] of the vertex position in each ring (sorted H4*Phi outer to inner, then H4 outer to inner).<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>BTW &#8211; if you find this information useful, or provide any portion of it to others, PLEASE make sure you cite this post. If you feel a blog post citation would not be an acceptable form for academic research papers, I would be glad to clean it up and put it into LaTex format in order to provide it to arXiv (with your academic sponsorship) or Vixra. Just send me a note at:\u00a0 jgmoxness@theoryofeverthing.org.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been intrigued with Richter&#8217;s arXiv 0704.3091 &#8220;Triacontagonal Coordinates for the E8 root system&#8221; paper. 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